The Blame Game: Chris Brown & Rihanna

Oh hey, remember the Chris Brown / Rihanna incident? The one where Brown beat Rihanna? And about a week ago, entered a not guilty plea? Right.

I'm not here to wax poetic about justice, though—I'm here to open up a conversations about the results of a study done shortly after the details of the incident were made public.

Girl Scouts of America commissioned a survey with Buzz Marketing Group to 420 girls nationwide between the ages of 8 and 17 on the highly publicized incident between Chris Brown and Rihanna. 59% blame Chris Brown for what happened, followed by 33% who place blame on both Rihanna and Chris Brown. The survey did contain one disturbing find among girls- it was the younger ones that were more likely to blame Rihanna.


Girls, what is this about?

I want you to try to step inside the heads of these younger girls and tell me how they've decided Rihanna was the one to blame.

One thing I've noticed among some commenters here on Buzznet (and ONTD, and other LJ communities) is this new-ish epidemic of girl-on-girl hate. And I don't like it one bit. I know this generation doesn't have a Riot Grrrl movement, nor is "GIRL POWER" paraphenilia all the rage, but there are plenty of strong females to look up to and plenty of male feminists. A lot of you were too young to be exposed to Destiny's Child, The Spice Girls and the other pro-girl artists of the late 90's/early 2000's, but is NOT having a Spice Girls severly damaging your sense of self? Do we need a Spice Girls 2.0? 'Cause I'll commission it, I swear.


Let's talk about it. Post your comment and the ones that provide perspective will be added into this post.

Some other stats from the Girl Scouts survey:

  • 95% believe Chris Brown’s actions are not acceptable
  • 45% believe Rihanna could have provoked Chris Brown
  • 97% said it is never acceptable for a boy to hit a girl in a relationship
  • 48% believe that Rihanna’s low self-esteem is the primary reason for her getting back with Chris Brown

 




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Posted by breesays on 04/17/2009 1:17 PM Visits: 2,052
Em is for ily: 04/17/2009 2:15 PM
I was at work once and I overheard people in the campus rec student lounge talking about the incident. One girl said something like "I heard she gave him herpes and that's why he did it. I don't blame him if that's true." I was shocked. Look, STDs suck, and if she lied about it, that sucks too. A lot. But it's still not an excuse to beat someone up. Abuse is NOT OK. It is never ok. I wouldn't have thought this would be a difficult opinion to come to.

Maybe we just need to provide DVDs of Spice World to every girl.
deathcabforsari: 04/17/2009 2:22 PM
Abuse is NEVER okay, I don't know what these girls are thinking. It's just, disgusting :/
Hardg: 04/17/2009 2:28 PM
I think the problem is young girls are more likely to go fan-girl and become completely obsessed with an artist. They build up their idol until he can do no wrong, and when something like this happens, it can't possibly be his fault. One can only hope as they grow out of their fan-girling, they'll also grow out of their views on abuse.
The Naked Drummer: 04/17/2009 2:32 PM
I remember when Oprah did an episode about domestic violence, and when they spoke about Chris and Rihanna, one of the girls said it was her fault and that she deserved it. It's so frustrating to hear things like that. I don't care if she called him a name or hit him first, he's a grown "man" and no man should ever, ever hit a woman, period. No matter what she does. Self defense is okay, but what he did was NOT self defense.
The Absent-Minded Professor.: 04/17/2009 2:33 PM
Even if you "provoke" someone, that should not mean physical harm for you. Violence is never okay, especially in a relationship, which is supposed to be based on things like trust or love - not violence and hate.
jamie: 04/17/2009 2:42 PM
Maybe we just need to provide DVDs of Spice World to every girl.
i completely agree, SPICE WORLD FOR EVERYBODY!
I'm stupidly scared for the future because of statistics like this and because of other statistics I found today indicating that 56% of a group of high school girls polled believe that, under certain circumstances, forced sex is okay. That's along with a lot of other evidence that young women are willfully writing off different forms of abuse (sexual, physical, emotional) as not a big deal or as something that women (or at least CERTAIN women) deserve.
AnnePopRock: 04/17/2009 2:50 PM
Ugghh...
Little fangirls are completely unreasonable...
Even if Rihanna instigated it, it doesn't make his actions any less atrocious, irresponsible, and wrong.
I hate violence.
Tonto, jump on it!: 04/17/2009 2:56 PM
Little girls. What rapscallions.

"He's too hawt and his music is too good, he just couldn't have done it..."
"I'm going to marry Chris Brown when I grow up, screw Rihanna to h-e-double hockey stick!"
( Oh wait... little girls probably swear nowadays. ---insert innocent giggle here--- )
I don't understand teeny bopper fangirlness nowadays. It's getting worse and worse.


Maybe we just need to provide DVDs of Spice World to every girl.
I have the old school VHS. Everything's better with static in the background.
But I agree with this.
voluptuosity: 04/17/2009 3:39 PM
I think the younger girls who voted Rihanna at fault, did so because they're exposed to a younger generation of males through dating, socializing w/e. Boys at a certain peak of puberty have always acted out physically before emotionally. To think of all the pigtails yanked mercilessly. lol

In today's day and age, violence is common between the newer generation. 8 times out of 10 it takes an older guy to sustain the true meaning of the word gentlemen. Just look at the movement of bling-bling, big rim riding, booty banging, baby ma-ma having, male 'role models' plaguing the scene. You'd hear a line about a guy taking a girl from her man before you'd hear a line about a guy going to meet a girl's folks.

Physical violence is never the answer but the reality of it all, is that it's just apart of human nature. I'm tired of people promoting how a guy should NEVER hit a woman under ANY circumstances. If a 6 foot, 300 pound chick came at my boyfriend with a knife, I'd want him to take the bitch out, ya know. lol Or any guy for that matter.

I think it's extremely unfair and sexist for society to assume that just because someone is born a guy they will automatically be able to sustain a woman without using violence if the situation ever calls for it. Not true and any attempt to carry out the honorable morals of the noble male specimen is not worth a mans life. I know this one guy who says he would let a chick stab him before he put his hands on her. To each his own bone, I guess.

Rihanna and Chris had been together long enough to know each others hot buttons. I'm not saying whatever she did justified a beating but she should still take responsibility in her hand over the heated ordeal. I highly doubt he hit her because she took his last piece of gum. Get my drift? I think her having had got back with him at all, is due to her taking responsibility for whatever of her actions got Chris swinging... doesn't mean she felt she deserved to be attacked, just that she's willing to forgive what only she can evaluate as plausible.

I know it's public protocol for a woman to dump a guy after putting his hands on her, but maybe Rihanna's level of maturity persuaded her to stick with him through the thickest of thick's. I heard a rumor that somewhere along the line Chris and Rihanna made plans to marry. Anyone know if that was true?
thebutcher: 04/17/2009 3:51 PM


Physical violence is never the answer but the reality of it all, is that it's just apart of human nature. I'm tired of people promoting how a guy should NEVER hit a woman under ANY circumstances. If a 6 foot, 300 pound chick came at my boyfriend with a knife, I'd want him to take the bitch out, ya know. lol Or any guy for that matter.

I think it's extremely unfair and sexist for society to assume that just because someone is born a guy they will automatically be able to sustain a woman without using violence if the situation ever calls for it. Not true and any attempt to carry out the honorable morals of the noble male specimen is not worth a mans life. I know this one guy who says he would let a chick stab him before he put his hands on her. To each his own bone, I guess.

Rihanna and Chris had been together long enough to know each others hot buttons. I'm not saying whatever she did justified a beating but she should still take responsibility in her hand over the heated ordeal. I highly doubt he hit her because she took his last piece of gum. Get my drift? I think her having had got back with him at all, is due to her taking responsibility for whatever of her actions got Chris swinging... doesn't mean she felt she deserved to be attacked, just that she's willing to forgive what only she can evaluate as plausible.

I know it's public protocol for a woman to dump a guy after putting his hands on her, but maybe Rihanna's level of maturity persuaded her to stick with him through the thickest of thick's. I heard a rumor that somewhere along the line Chris and Rihanna made plans to marry. Anyone know if that was true?

I agree with you. No one should glorify abuse, but they shouldn't be so quick to point the finger at one party and one party only.

No woman should ever be hit by her spouse, just as a man shouldn't worry about his lady love hitting him. It's a double standard to hold a guy accountable for abusing a woman, but not holding a woman accountable for hitting a male.

Abuse is abuse.
Blair Waldorf: 04/17/2009 3:55 PM
Having a niece coming into the world in August, I'm really scared.
onfirebitch: 04/17/2009 4:15 PM
It's just a really shitty situation. Abuse is wrong on any account, but I can't really put a clear judgment on Rhianna because I don't know the exact situation, especially with all the he-said/she-said since. Chris is 100 percent guilty in any situation though. People mentioned that Chris' abuse to Rhianna has been nothing new, nor was she the first victim of his volatile nature. Things have been said about Chris throwing plates at his mom before Rhianna was even singing about Umbrella's, so I've never really trusted the dude.

On one hand you have to blame Chris because of the obvious reasons, but at the same time Rhianna isn't completely without fault. Given he's been horribly abusive to her before (again only going off what I've heard/seen/read) this isn't a completely shocking situation. I'm not saying people should star cussing her out or judging her, because it's difficult for a lot of women to leave abusive relationships. At the same time however, it's not completely surprising to see it come to this level of abuse in those type of relationships.

They aren't sorry and the more you let them get away with it, the more abusive and ruthless they get. I'm just glad she did find a way out, and the bastard should be charged to the fullest extent.
***_!uce_***: 04/17/2009 4:26 PM

emisforily said:Maybe we just need to provide DVDs of Spice World to every girl.i completely agree, SPICE WORLD FOR EVERYBODY!
oo that was an awesome film... spice girls back in the day.. awesome, but they shouldnt of done another tour here in the uk.. just leave it in the 90's lol
annaralph: 04/17/2009 4:34 PM
I'll start by saying I don't know the Rihanna/Chris situation in detail at all but this sort of stat always bothers me: "97% said it is never acceptable for a boy to hit a girl in a relationship" I learn a lot about these sort of things in Sociology regarding people's views etc and in that subject I am always questioning things like this. Boys are typically stronger and more aggressive due to gender socialisation mainly and therefore if they were to be violent, they are more likely to inflict worse injuries than if a women were to be violent, however (this may be totally wrong) but I heard that she had been hitting him previously to which provoked his response.
I'm not saying that this justifys his actions in any way but "it is never acceptable for a boy to hit a girl in a relationship"?? I also think that it shouldn't be acceptable for a girl to hit a boy in a relationship - Equal Right Act springs to mind, did the suffragettes only fight for equal rights that called in their favour?? I know for a fact that girls can cause just as much damage as boys, but they are treated less harsh due to women being 'more vulnerable' I don't agree with violence as it doesn't solve any problems no one is violent without a cause and it is due to gender socialisation that we have these problems - men take their anger out physically to show masculinity, woman take their anger out mentally by screaming/crying etc because they are taught to be passive. But because of this, situations like this:
If a 6 foot, 300 pound chick came at my boyfriend with a knife, I'd want him to take the bitch out
would be taken a lot lighter I feel, than if it was the other way around...
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